Tram extension forces closure of King William St and North Tce intersection
Published by ABC News on 31-Dec-2017
Closed to buses and cars from 1-Jan-2018 10.00pm to 15-Jan-2018 6.00am.
Buses that used King William Rd, North Adelaide, and King William St, Adelaide, are diverting to Morphett St and Pulteney St. A lot of buses, so please be careful when riding in these two streets, especially at sharp corners around the squares.
I do not know what choices private drivers are making.
In Grenfell St today I counted 18 vehicles incorrectly in the bus lane, to the frustration of some bus drivers. The private drivers did not budge when bus horns sounded.
+1 so modal bicycles - luv it!
I've had no problems getting through the works this week. Lollypoppers seem happy to let a cyclists go through cones and up footpaths, even pointing safe ways through.
For the past week it has been very frustrating at Victoria Square travelling west from Wakefield to Grote Streets. The bike lane has now become a temporary bus stop for the trams to the Entertainment Centre. The bus drivers do not seem to care that they cut cyclists off. Sometimes there are 2 buses alongside each other blocking access altogether. Obviously that will be blocked for the next couple of weeks for TDU but will be interesting afterwards if tram works still continuing.
Yeah I go to Franklin St via Gray St. Don't like it much though as you take your life in your hands with the drivers who want to turn left in to car parks - crossing over the bike lane as they do it. Some don't even look out for cyclists. Also get annoyed with the slow casual cyclists who get in your way as there is not much scope for overtaking along there.
And those slow casual cyclists don't even pay rego.
some of them slow casual cyclists even run you of the road, they should be banned, along with their high viz vests!
Anyway, is there a right hand tram turn in this drone video of Nth Tce / King William?
Oh yes, there's a new hotel being built at the Nth ADL Channel 9 site too!
I understand what all the fuss is about, it was just that the video to me looked like there was a right hand turn from KW onto Nth Tce going E. I had to do a shot by shot slo-mo to see I was looking at the LH turn from Nth Tce to KW (I've lived in both RH & LH traffic, so drone footage such as this may do strange things to my brain ;-).
Why would the future services timetable show that the curve isn't needed? Sounds to me like a chicken and egg situation... i.e. we've decided we don't want a RH turn, so don't put a RH turn in the future services timetable, and then when we release that, we can prove a RH turn isn't needed because there won't be a RH turn service in the timetable?
The tram would be able to complete a left turn, use a crossover, then return the other way (go east). That would put the Railway Station stop into play for every trip. The crossover is visible in this view.
An Adelaide local tram service might include Victoria Square as well as the East End, linking to the Railway Station or even the nRAH. The layout would suit a tram running from east to west, south, north, east in continuous looping service.
Anyway, the current layout means that tram traffic in front of Parliament House is multiplied making it look busier than it is. Something for the pollies to admire and point out to visiting dignitaries. We'll find out soon enough.
Dave, are you implying a demand study was done and would show there to be no demand for a RH turn from KW to Nth Tce?
Aren't government(s) in the game of "build it and they'll come, and if they don't who cares about wasted tax $"?
Knowing the light rail systems of several major Euro cities, I agree that high frequency is a key to success, but these cities all have 'a whole swag of different direct routes'.
- Antwerp: 14 lines, 117km route, (couldn't find amount of stops, but I counted 12 lines that pass through central station)
- Brussels: 17 lines, 140km route, (+ metro)
- Paris: 9 lines, 105km route, 186 stops (+ metro: 16 lines, 303 stations, 214km)
- Berlin: 22 lines, 800 stops, 190km route
- Amsterdam: 14 lines, 500 stops, 80km route
- Moscow metro: 50 lines, 207 stations, 180km route
- Vienna: (I like to compare Vienna to ADL, I find them very similar) 30 lines, +1000 stops, 180km route
- Melbourne (don't forget the neighbours...): 24 lines (most go to or through the CBD and share tracks in a complicated service pattern), +1750 stops, 250km track